• Switching to binkit

    From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Thursday, April 24, 2025 13:21:47
    Hi all,

    I'm considering moving from binkp to binkit for no particular reason and just wondered who has done this in the past and are there any pros/cons to the process?

    I do have a script to automate some areafix and filefix commands that'll construct the email and then call binkd to send the message. It looks like this isn't possible with binkit at the moment. From what I can tell you can either poll all the nodes at once that have Poll=Yes or just poll a node but not send messages.

    My board has more than one link to fidonet, I assume that's a regular thing and shouldn't be a problem otherwise.

    Anyway, if anyone has anything to add, I'd be interested to hear.

    Thanks,

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to nelgin on Friday, April 25, 2025 15:35:55
    nelgin wrote to All <=-

    Hi all,

    I'm considering moving from binkp to binkit for no particular reason
    and just wondered who has done this in the past and are there any pros/cons to the process?

    I moved from Radius (an Argus clone) to Binkit a couple of years ago,
    now. I wanted a mailer that could move with me to Linux.

    If memory serves, I created the nodes in echoefg, copied the passwords
    and info over, copied my inbound over from Radius and let it rip. I set
    that up before filefix and tickit support, so needed to add that in
    manually.

    I do have a script to automate some areafix and filefix commands
    that'll construct the email and then call binkd to send the message. It looks like this isn't possible with binkit at the moment. From what I
    can tell you can either poll all the nodes at once that have Poll=Yes
    or just poll a node but not send messages.

    Synchronet does areafix/filefix, and there's a tickit package that does
    most of what an end-node could need.

    With binkley format, you could flavor your message Crash and poll the
    node, would that work for your scenario?

    Nowadays, I set most of my nodes as crash/direct, no need to route for
    cost savings these days.

    My board has more than one link to fidonet, I assume that's a regular thing and shouldn't be a problem otherwise.

    I think you'd just put them both in your areas file, but then you're
    packing dupe messages if you're fed all areas by both uplinks, unless
    feed1 also feeds feed2? If you have area lists that don't overlap per
    uplink, that should be just fine. Binkit won't care, as that's all
    happening at the packing stage.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to nelgin on Saturday, April 26, 2025 12:36:08
    Re: Switching to binkit
    By: nelgin to All on Thu Apr 24 2025 01:21 pm

    I'm considering moving from binkp to binkit for no particular reason and just wondered who has done this in the past and are there any pros/cons to the process?

    I haven't used binkp, but when I ran my BBS in Windows, I was using Radius for my mailer. I eventually decided to switch to binkit because binkit is written in JS for Synchronet and would run wherever Synchronet runs. I wanted to move my BBS to Linux (which I eventually did), and using binkit helped with that, since binkit continued to run in Linux just as it did in Windows.

    I imagine your reasons may differ though.. If you have a setup that already works, there may be less of a compelling reason to switch, unless you want something that's better integrated with Synchronet.

    Nightfox

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  • From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Saturday, April 26, 2025 19:36:13
    On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 12:36:08 -0700
    "Nightfox" (VERT/DIGDIST) <VERT/DIGDIST!Nightfox@endofthelinebbs.com>
    wrote:

    Re: Switching to binkit
    By: nelgin to All on Thu Apr 24 2025 01:21 pm

    I'm considering moving from binkp to binkit for no particular
    reason and just wondered who has done this in the past and are
    there any pros/cons to the process?

    I haven't used binkp, but when I ran my BBS in Windows, I was using
    Radius for my mailer. I eventually decided to switch to binkit
    because binkit is written in JS for Synchronet and would run wherever Synchronet runs. I wanted to move my BBS to Linux (which I
    eventually did), and using binkit helped with that, since binkit
    continued to run in Linux just as it did in Windows.

    I imagine your reasons may differ though.. If you have a setup that
    already works, there may be less of a compelling reason to switch,
    unless you want something that's better integrated with Synchronet.

    That's the thing. Really no compelling reason other than to have
    integrated with Synchronet and one less thing I have to keep updated.
    However I find the whole echocfg rather fiddly and, as they say, if it
    aint broke, don't fix it.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to nelgin on Sunday, April 27, 2025 09:11:17
    nelgin wrote to All <=-

    That's the thing. Really no compelling reason other than to have integrated with Synchronet and one less thing I have to keep updated. However I find the whole echocfg rather fiddly and, as they say, if it aint broke, don't fix it.

    Yeah, having to keep track of directories in Allfix, Radius and
    sbbsecho, passwords for areafix one place, session passwords somewhere
    else -- having everything in sbbsecho.ini is nice.

    The one feature I miss with Radius missing in Binkit is a graphical representation of my outbound. It's easy with Radius to look at the
    outbound and see who hasn't polled in a long time.

    ... Adding on
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  • From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, April 27, 2025 12:27:06
    Re: Re: Switching to binkit
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to nelgin on Sun Apr 27 2025 09:11:17

    The one feature I miss with Radius missing in Binkit is a graphical representation of my outbound. It's easy with Radius to look at the
    outbound and see who hasn't polled in a long time.

    Seems like a simple request for binkit to just log the date of the last successful incoming connection, if it doesn't already, and just do a little script to display it.

    I've created myself a hiddle sysop menu for these useful little programs I don't want to setup as a door but still want access ful.

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